I am attaching a debugger to a .exe that uses a dll I have made that uses the ultrawingrid. There seems to be a hang up though right after i hit the UltraWinGrid1.initializelayout() event.... This is happening when I am calling the showdialogue of my form (window) and it goes through initializelayout of the grid (i imagin from an event fired during the showdialogue process, but which is hidden to me), end then tells me overflow or underflow exception has occurred, then bugs out. If i can find out which event is fired right after the initializelayout, maybe it could give me a clue as to what is happening to my form as it is showing...i right now do not even get to make it through my _load() event of the form itself... thanks in advance