The only explanation i can come up with is that it's more profitable to cheaply hack together new controls and start selling them than to take the time to do things properly. I have worked with infragistics for years, i have been to your training, i have used and skinned almost all of your controls and im just plain frustrated with it all.
My frustrations boil down to three things:
To get a very basic idea of the bloat issue take a grid control, bind it with a basic data on an otherwise blank page and view the resulting page source and you'll see what i mean, check out the page weight / file size from html and in fact do it with any controls. There's so much convoluded, unneeded and downright dirty code its dissapointing. Things like tables repeatedly nested inside each cell. I realise that there are scenarios where this is the only option but why not remove the overheads when those features aren't being used?
Maybe with the increase in consumer internet bandwidth its been taken as free reign to not optimise and streamline. Maybe i get the worst end of the problems because i work with UI design and skinning controls.
Hey Chris,
You might want to update the survey to include controls other than for Asp.Net only. At this time it looks like no matter what platform you choose, it only shows web controls.
Taz.
I am in the process of building a tutorial site that will be mostly based on netadvantage so if you would like to see something particular feelfree to fill in the survey.
http://surveys.kuzook.com/?sv=svoebbf63338457659kb355
If you have any trouble taking the above survey please let me know.
Offered for your consideration: Let's rename this topic.
As often as I criticize IG for the shortcomings I perceive, (some major) I see words like “horribly” to be counterproductive. Anyone concurring is invited to reply to this post, thus using my “kinder, gentler” subject.
Jeff said: The only explanation i can come up with is that it's more profitable to cheaply hack together new controls and start selling them than to take the time to do things properly.
The only explanation i can come up with is that it's more profitable to cheaply hack together new controls and start selling them than to take the time to do things properly.
Straight-talk Jeff who treasures purity and truth, I can tell that I would like you if I met you.
By the way, have you *EVER* tried to use Infragistics HTML help system?
What about looking through the sample code? Hahahahah, man what a joke, it doesn't even compile. It's from some version way back like 6.1 or something.
Oh, and then they have the *AUDACITY* to send a half dozen emails proclaiming the best way to learn using Infragistics is by attending some seminar where they will show you for a *FEE*.
To be honest, if I didn't inherit the need to use this library due to being hired after the project I'm supporting was originally made, I'd have used Syncfusion, or.... or... I would have made a strong strong case for writing the components deemed as necessary for the "pretty" factor.
Perry
I apologize for coming across so harsh. You are a very loyal customer and I want to keep it that way. You are right, making you wait 30 or 40 days for a response is not up to the standards we hold ourselves to.
I agree with your suggestion that a better file upload system would be very helpful. We're always looking for ways to improve how we can get information to and from customers in Developer Support, and this is something we will investigate as an option.
The best way to get in touch with me is via email at dsmanager@infragistics.com - please feel free to use this email address whenever you feel the need to let me know about problems like this.