I've got a problem. One of the datagrids a website which I am developing, doesn't show any rows >ever< when viewed under the new Google Chrome browser that was released earlier today.
Has anyone else noticed any inconsistences with the Infragistics controls and Google Chrome?
I've published two screenshots on my review of Google Chrome here: http://blog.evolvedsoftwarestudios.com/2008/09/02/web-browser-wars-room-for-one-more-google-launch-google-chrome/ (scroll right down to the last two images in the article).
Hello,
I have just gone through your blog post - great content there. I also was probably one of the first to download and try Google Chrome and I am really impressed by the speed and simplicity of the browser, plus several great ideas they have to save space (pressing Ctrl +K for search goes back to address bar with ? prefix - clever stuff).
Google Chrome's engine is based on WebKit - this is the open source engine that powers the Safari browser. So while we of course cannot make any official statements for Chrome at this very moment, you will typically expect the controls we ship that work on Safari to generally work in Chrome. UltraWebGrid has parts of it that are not working on Safari yet, hence the problem you experience.
Needless to say, Safari and Google Chrome support will be moving up the priority list and we will do our best to be better in this area. In fact, almost 100% of the stuff we will be going to ship soon already works fine in both Chrome and Safari - you can test this with the CTP versions of WebDataTree and WebDataGrid and our brand new Drag & Drop framework here (a lot of this stuff and much more will ship in the next releases we have)
https://ko.infragistics.com/samples/aspnet/drag-drop-framework/overview
So basically - yes, we are watching Chrome (and WebKit / Safari in general) closely and will be doing our best to support that, the way we support FireFox/Mozilla and IE.
Chad - We will be evaluating our current UltraWebGrid for full Safari and Chrome support. At this time, I cannot commit to any timeframe.
osystems - Thank you for checking out the Aikido grid. Yes, it is true that it can't out run the current grid in a single release in term of its feature count :), but if you get a chance to work with it, you will experience the benefits that it brings for todays web application development.
I would love to hear more on features that you would like to see or are currently using within your gird controls. Any other issues and concerns you have, feel free to ping me, my email is :
murtazaa@infragistics.com
Thanks,
Taz.
Taz-
Any update on the evaluation for UltraWebGrid to be supported in Safari and Chrome?
Thanks
Chad Dunham
Hello Chad,
We've started planning our 9.1 release as we just got 8.3 out the door and the November CTP of Aikido controls. As I mentioned earlier, evaluating our WebGrid for Safari is high on your list and we will be doing so within our 9.1 cycle. It is still too early for me to say what the outcome maybe at this point.
Since we are still under planning, if you could share some of your WebGrid usage within your applications that will help us with our efforts. I would like to hear from you or anyone monitoring this thread, a typical WebGrid setup on your pages, with the features that you use most within the WebGrid. You can send your inputs at : murtazaa@infragistics.com.
Thanks for the response. Am I correct to assume that the WebGrid and the UltraWebGrid are the same thing? I have been using UltraWebGrid for several years now, and have tons of projects that I do not the time or resources to convert to another control. Or am I wrong to assume that the conversion to the Aikido is not a major undertaking?
As for the specific functionality that I am using from the UltraWebGrid are:
I am sure there are other items that I am missing, but that it my first pass.
Chad
Thanks for the info Chad!
Yes, WebGrid and UltraWebGrid is the same control, sorry for the confusion. We don't have any plans to convert it over to Aikido.
-Taz.
dhaggard-
Thanks for checking it out. Yeah Opera does not have a large market share, unless if you have some silly clients that would like to use it ... but they can get over it.
Thanks for the response... yes there are several reasons why the Aikido version is inferior to the original version. Here is a snapshot of the reasons:
See my previous post in this thread from Nov. 25, 2008 for more.... So unfortunately the Aikido version is lacking as well - oh and the fact that there would be a rework on 100% of the code ... that is not a workable solution.
Hi Dhaggard,Chad,
We were not able to get to this item for 2009 Volume 1 release, as our feature requests for other controls/feature remained very high. We did some testing and in order to support WebGrid in AJAX mode over WebKit we will have to do a significant amount of dev effort, and to keep the features that we were able to ship in 9.1, we had to pull this one out.
However, trying to wrap the grid inside of an UpdatePanel and let that take care of converting it into an AJAX call back for the grid while the WebGrid be rendered as non-ajax, the results were quite different.
So, I would recommend you to try putting the WebGrid in an UpdatePanel to support AJAX if that is the issue that you are running into. However, that is still not a supported environment either for the WebGrid, but you should be able to see the data. I am sure you must have noticed by now already that we were able to get our ASP.NET AJAX controls built on top of the Aikido framewrok support in both Safari and Chrome. Althought the WebDataGrid is not as feature rich at the moment as the WebGrid, but if that suits the need that you are looking for and you have an immediate need to support Chrome & Safari, then that would be the way to go. If there is a feature missing in the WebDataGrid because of which you can't convert, please feel free to shoot me an email : murtazaa@infragistics.com
Thanks again for your inputs.
Taz
I had not tried Opera, but I just did. The grid works in Opera. However, the WebAppStylist does not. My grid-- which is so pretty in Firefox and IE, with scrolling and pretty colors and easy-to-read fonts-- is just an ugly table in Opera with Times font. <yuck!>
But since Opera has a whopping 0.7% market share, and (unless something big happens) doesn't show any sign of gaining any, I'm not to worried about it.
However, Chrome is up to 1.23% in its short lifespan, and shows all the signs of one day catching and/or overtaking Firefox. Wisdom would indicate Chrome support is going to be a big deal.
dhaggard -
Did you happen to try Opera as well?
Any update???
-Chad
I have upgraded to 2009.1 for ASP.NET. I also just downloaded and installed the newest Google Chrome beta (1.0.154.53)
I hoped, but it didn't happen. My IG-controlled pages with the UltraWebGrid still do not work in Chrome.
Any word on Chrome/Safari progress?